Thanks! I'm pretty surprised that this seems to be a similar hill-climbing scaffold to the one from the automated weak-to-strong research post ~6 months ago? In particular, I find the following two things intrinsically at odds:
There is a belief among large parts of the 3rd party safety community that alignment requires the kind of research which cannot easily be hillclimbed. I.e., it is not always clear what metrics one should climb. And, even if one obtains good scores on the metrics, it's not clear how this corresponds to improved alignment. I'm curious whether you disagree with this assessment?
To ground this in specific examples, we've used similar scaffolds to the one described in this post. While these can be useful for hill-climbing-shaped work, we find that they do not provide uplift on the diverse set of tasks that holistic alignment research seems to require.
I used to be a big proponent of the position that automating alignment would require fuzzy alignment taste that we would have to train into models explicitly, but I've recently updated away from that position and I think it now looks much more likely to me that hillclimbing concrete metrics will be more important. I'll probably write more about this soon, but for now:
I also just really disagree with the idea that we should be putting effort into scaffolds; I think the returns to better scaffolds, at least relative to what the labs already have, are pretty minimal, and tend to get repeatedly washed out by improvements in the underlying models. Working on scaffolds is just not a very bitter-lesson-pilled thing to do; in my opinion, the right approach is to focus on metrics and verification processes, which scale much better, and is what we did here.
Authors: Oscar Balcells Obeso, Richard Qi, Monte MacDiarmid, Evan Hubinger
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