Note that beyond not-being-mentioned, such arguments are also anthropically filtered against: in worlds where such arguments have been out there for longer, we died a lot quicker, so we’re not there to observe those arguments having been made.
This anthropic analysis doesn't take into account past observers (see this post).
My current belief is that you do make some update upon observing existing, you just don't update as much as if we were somehow able to survive and observe unaligned AI taking over. I do agree that the no update at all because you can't see the counterfactual is wrong, but anthropics is still somewhat filtering your evidence; you should update less.
(I don't have my full reasoning for {why I came to this conclusion} fully loaded rn, but I could probably do so if needed. Also, I only skimmed your post, sorry. I have a post on updating under anthropics with actual math I'm working on, but unsure when I'll get around to finishing it.)
These are some selection effects impacting what ideas people tend to get exposed to and what they'll end up believing, in ways that make the overall epistemics worse. These have mostly occured to me about AI discourse (alignment research, governance, etc), mostly on LessWrong. (They might not be exclusive to discourse on AI risk.)
(EDIT: I've reordered the sections in this post so that less people get stuck on what was the first section and so they a better chance of reading the other two sections.)
Outside-view is overrated
In AI discourse, outside-view (basing one's opinion on other people's and on (things that seem like) precedents), as opposed to inside-view (having an actual gears-level understanding of how things work), is being quite overrated for a variety of reasons.
Arguments about P(doom) are filtered for nonhazardousness
Some of the best arguments for high P(doom) / short timelines that someone could make would look like this:
But obviously, if people had arguments of this shape, they wouldn't mention them, because they make it easier for someone to build an AI that kills everyone. This is great! Carefulness about exfohazards is better than the alternative here.
But people who strongly rely on outside-view for their P(doom) / timelines should be aware that their arguments are being filtered for nonhazardousness. Note that this plausibly applies to other topics than P(doom) / timelines.
Note that beyond not-being-mentioned, such arguments are also anthropically filtered against: in worlds where such arguments have been out there for longer, we died a lot quicker, so we're not there to observe those arguments having been made.
Confusion about the problem often leads to useless research
People enter AI risk discourse with various confusions, such as:
Those questions about the problem do not particularly need fancy research to be resolved; they're either already solved or there's a good reason why thinking about them is not useful to the solution. For these examples:
We don't need to figure out this problem, we can just implement CEV without ever having a good model of what "human values" are.
The vast majority of the utility you have to gain is from {getting a utopia rather than everyone-dying-forever}, rather than {making sure you get the right utopia}.
Expected utility maximization seems to fully cover this. More general models aren't particularly useful to saving the world.
This does not particularly matter. If there is unaligned ASI, we just die, the way AI now just wins at chess; this is the only part that particularly matters.
They do a value-handshake and kill everyone together.
People keep mentioning definitions of AGI such as "when 99% of currently fully remote jobs will be automatable" or "for almost all economically relevant cognitive tasks, at least matches any human's ability at the task".
I do not think such definitions are useful, because I don't think these things are particularly related to how-likely/when AI will kill everyone. I think AI kills everyone before observing the event in either of those quotes — and even if it didn't, having passed those events doesn't particularly impact when AI will kill everyone. I usually talk about timelines until decisive strategic advantage (aka AI takes over the world) takes over, because that's what matters.
"AGI" should probably just be tabood at this point.
These answers (or reasons-why-answering-is-not-useful) usually make sense if you're familiar with rationality and alignment, but some people are still missing a lot of the basics of rationality and alignment, and by repeatedly voicing these confusions they cause people to think that those confusions are relevant and should be researched, causing lots of wasted time.
It should also be noted that some things are correct to be confused about. If you're researching a correlation or concept-generalization which doesn't actually exist in the territory, you're bound to get pretty confused! If you notice you're confused, ask yourself whether the question is even coherent/true, and ask yourself whether figuring it out helps save the world.