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Kei146

In practice, the verifier is probably some kind of learned reward model (though it could be automated, like unit tests for code).


My guess is that a substantial amount of the verification (perhaps the majority?) was automated by training the model on domains where we have ground truth reward signals, like code, math, and standardized test questions. This would match the observed results in the o1 blog post showing that performance improved by a lot in domains that have ground truth or something close to ground truth, while performance was stagnant on things like creative writing which are more subjective. Nathan Lambert, the head of post-training at AI2, also found that doing continued RL training on ground truth rewards (which he calls RLVR) results in models that learn to say o1-like things like 'wait, let me check my work' in their chain of thought.

Kei10

It's possible I'm using motivated reasoning, but on the listed ambiguous questions in section C.3, the answers the honest model gives tend to seem right to me. As in, if I were forced to answer yes or no to those questions, I would give the same answer as the honest model the majority of the time.

So if, as is stated in section 5.5, the lie detector not only detects whether the model had lied but whether it would lie in the future, and if the various model variants have a similar intuition to me, then the honest model is giving its best guess of the correct answer, and the lying model is giving its best guess of the wrong answer.

I'd be curious if this is more generally true - if humans tend to give similar responses to the honest model for ambiguous questions.